Barry Lynn and Religious Liberty Print E-mail
By Jesse Lava
Jul. 17, 07 09:39

Rev. Barry Lynn has his heart in the right place, I think: he's wary of religion overstepping its bounds in the public square.  But as the director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, he seems a bit too eager to slam the legitimate incorporation of faith into politics.

 

A Dallas Morning News article from this past weekend quotes Lynn chiding presidential candidates for stepping up the faith talk this election:

 

"When you have Democrats and Republicans hiring ethics and religion advisers – that is to say spin doctors – it suggests they are not really comfortable themselves knowing whatever it is they do believe," said the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United.

Mr. Lynn noted that the Democratic front-runners recently discussed their religious faith at a nationally televised forum and frequently invoke God at campaign stops.

"This is pandering," he told a conference on church-state issues sponsored by the Texas Lyceum, a nonpartisan public-policy organization.

 

First off, the religion advisers in question, at least on the Democratic side -- Joshua DuBois on Obama's campaign, Burns Strider on Clinton's -- don't tell their candidates what to believe.  Obama and Clinton are pretty well versed on this stuff.  No, the advisers are in charge of religious outreach.  I can't imagine that Rev. Lynn expects the candidates themselves to handle all the organizing and communications associated with reaching out to religious institutions, the media, and voters on matters of faith.

 

Surely, there's nothing worse about having advisers on faith than on anything else. 

 

Which brings me to Lynn's next point: that candidates were "pandering" when they discussed their faith at a recent Sojourners forum.  Well, is it pandering to speak to the NEA about education?  Or to the AFL-CIO about labor issues?  Or to the NAACP about race?

 

In a way, of course, it is: in election season, pandering is what politicians do.  But as I've argued here and here, there's no reason that faith should be singled out for criticism.  To do so is to turn the idea of religious liberty on its head -- imposing a penalty on religious talk rather than ensuring it goes unimpeded.

 

Jesse welcomes comments at jesse [at] faithfuldemocrats.com. 


LIST OF COMMENTS

1/10. Rev. Lynn responds
Written by Barry Lynn  | Jul. 17, 07 21:11
Just a quick response to the comments about me going too far.  I do think the Democrats who were invited to the Sojourners event (only the top three) should have been clear that they didn't think questions about their "biggest sin" or "what they pray about" are appropriate questions to ask a candidate for public office.  Journalists in America can, of course,  ask anything they want; candidates do not have to answer them and can assert they are wildly inappropriate (Mitt Romney has actually done that).  In the same way, voters in America can choose to vote for someone on the basis of shoe size, religious membership, or any other factor; but I think it is best if all of us vote on the basis of what values (from sources religious or secular) acted upon by a candidate are most consistent with our own.  This is not a sermonette; just a thought.

2/10. dumb voters?
Written by trapper joe  | Jul. 17, 07 22:50

Good post.  I agree that Lynn goes too far sometimes.  But it is great to see him engaging the debate on the thread!  Regarding Lynn's comment that voters can decide on whatever basis they want...that is true, and I know he is not disputing that.  But it is sometimes unclear what Lynn thinks violates the separation of church and state and what he thinks is stupidity on the part of voters. 


3/10. Boxers, Briefs, and Religion
Written by Jesse  | Jul. 17, 07 23:46

Rev. Lynn --

Thanks for joining us!  My main issue here is that the discussion of personal characteristics is considered OK until religion enters the picture.  If John Edwards gets to talk about his dad being a millworker and Bill Clinton gets to talk about "a place called Hope," why can't candidates this year talk about the idiosyncrasies of their faith?

I think you'd have a fine argument if you wanted to say that personality is given way to much emphasis in political campaigns.  I myself believe that to be true.  But if we accept the reality that campaigns use personal characteristics as a proxy for political values, then why shouldn't faith be just as valid a discussion topic as anything else?  In other words, why would you get more worked up about Edwards being asked about his greatest sin than about, say, Bill Clinton being asked whether he wears boxers or briefs?  (Or maybe you don't!)

In any event, thanks for engaging.

Jesse


4/10. Bad Questions
Written by stanjz  | Jul. 18, 07 07:51
These moderators need to stick to questions that are a concern to the public. Ask how their faith plays a part in the decision to go to war. Ask about how faith plays a part in raising wages for the poorest families. But if a strong resistance builds to suppressing faith in its entirety from politics, than the moderates will go away meekly, and the extremists will continue to be the voice of religion. There are core virtues to Christianity such as mercy, forgiveness, peace, compassion, anti-materialism, humility and love. The Republican Party is the antithesis of these values in most ways, so it's beyond my imagination how people in the South and Midwest can vote for them. What Bible do you read in the south and how often do you read it!! It's up to individuals to find the truth for themselves and not have someone else interpret everything for them.

5/10. church/state
Written by miggsathon  | Jul. 18, 07 15:08
what jesse said, and - when someone who is the head of a church/state group makes a comment, wouldnt most people think it has some bearing on church/state?  the reverend's comment here says he's acting as if that has nothing to do with it.

6/10. Reverend
Written by Dan  | Jul. 18, 07 19:10

I often hear of the Rev. Barry Lynn.  Can someone tell me if he really is ordained, and if so, what denomination he's from? 

 

Thanks!


7/10. UCC
Written by Jesse  | Jul. 18, 07 21:43

Dan --

Check Google: he is an ordained minister in the United Church of Christ.

Jesse


8/10. Appreciate It
Written by Dan  | Jul. 19, 07 05:54

Thanks!

 

While we're at it, do you know where the Reverends Sharpton and Jackson are affiliated?


9/10. Like I said...
Written by Jesse  | Jul. 19, 07 08:47
Check Google, Dan.  It's your friend.

10/10. Request for dialogue on the subject creationism vs Darwin
Written by French student  | Oct. 12, 07 08:00

Alex

We are french people and we would have some informations on creationnism as part of thesis on the religion against the evolution (Darwin), on this debate very  important in your country because we aren't understanding the opinion teatchers have.

Indeed they think that god is the creater of the human. Many americans think like them and whereas no one in Europe think like that.

Could you pleas give us your mind on this subject.                     Thanks

 


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