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How Different Are Progressive and Conservative Christians? Part I |
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By Linda Seger
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Aug. 08, 07 12:03 |
This post is the first in a three-part series addressing the question, Do progressive/liberal and conservative Christians really think differently? And if so, is that a problem?
Not everyone has had first hand
experience being a Conservative Christian and a Progressive Christian and
everything in between. However, at one time or another, I've been in each one
of these camps.
I grew up mainstream Lutheran, became a Born Again Christian,
and a Fundamentalist and Evangelical for about two years, and was re-baptized
as an adult in a lake in Arizona by a Southern Baptist preacher. I was very much influenced by Liberal
Christianity in seminary, then became a Quaker, spent an afternoon being a
Radical Christian, and am comfortable with a definition of myself as a
Christian Progressive or a Christian Liberal, although don't fit neatly into
every category, which seems to be true for most people. (I'm aware that there
are some differences between the Progressive and Liberal, but for the purposes
of these articles, they don't seem as relevant!)
Are we really so different? I've
reached the conclusion that Conservative Christians and Progressive/Liberal
Christians truly think differently, although not always, and not on all
issues. I believe we focus and emphasize different ideas, and sometimes
have different thinking processes. I don't know if this has to do with our
personalities, or how we respond to ambiguity, or whether we are rebelling
against or accepting, the religion of our youth, or how wounded we were in
childhood, or how curious we are, or what we've learned through our own study
of theology and the Scriptures. Yet, although I no longer consider myself a
conservative, there are many areas where we, as Christians who might consider
ourselves Progressives or Liberals can learn from the Conservatives, if we're
willing, and the Conservatives, if they're willing, could learn from us. Of
course, willingness is all, and many from both sides are not willing.
It was the Fundamentalists who
taught me about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, about the experience
of prayer, about reading my Bible daily and having daily devotion and prayer
time, about committing myself to Christ (as an Evangelical would say) and being
committed to a spiritual life and putting God first (as other Christians might
say about their own Born Again experiences.) Christians vary in terms of
their own spiritual disciplines. On the surface, one might expect that
Progressive/Liberals have fewer daily devotions, but I'm not convinced about
this. I expect that many Progressive/Liberals are reading spiritual literature,
although perhaps not always with the same focus on the Bible as many
Conservatives. And I'm sure that many Conservatives don't have daily devotions
and are doing no more than anyone else in terms of a daily spiritual practice.
Conservatives seem to emphasize
belief more than action, whereas Progressive/Liberals don't care as much about
what someone else believes, as long as they don't try to push their belief
systems on others. They care more about the action that results from one's
beliefs, since they know belief doesn't always translate into making them more
caring, more compassionate, more loving, kinder, with more of the fruits of the
Spirit.
Both care about transgressions, but
Conservatives often put the focus on sexual transgressions,
Progressive/Liberals on social transgressions -- corruption, not caring for the
poor, pollution of the environment.
I have found more hypocrisy and
self-righteousness among Conservatives than among Progressive/Liberals. Since
belief is so strong, they sometimes are not reflective and introspective,
pointing their fingers at others rather than looking at their own behavior.
They speak more about the Letter of the Law than about the Spirit of the Law.
There is much more boxing in of ideas, as if everything has to have a clear
boundary and a Scripture passage to back it up, even though their Scriptural
choices are often very selective, as are everyone's. As a result, their clear
and absolute boundaries can make them judgmental of others which can cause deep
psychological and spiritual wounds. I have spoken to so many wounded
ex-Catholics, ex-Baptists, ex-Fundamentalists, but don't recall speaking to a
wounded Methodist or Lutheran or Presbyterian who feel freer to change churches
if one doesn't suit. So many wounded Christians simply leave the Church, since
they don't feel they have choices. It's one way or no way. I find far less of
this from Mainstream and more Liberal Churches, where we are encouraged to
question, to struggle with figuring out our relationship with God, and where
it's just fine to change denominations, to experiment, to search.
I'd be interested in readers'
perceptions of these differences. In "Part Two," I'll briefly explore different
concepts of God and Christ and Humanity!
Dr. Linda Seger is the author of Jesus Rode a Donkey: Why the Republicans Don't Have a Corner on Christ.
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| 3/7. Conservative Law | | Written by mouse | Aug. 08, 07 21:30 | |
| A conservative by definition is concerned with the letter of the law. In contrast the proggressive is more concerned with the spirit of the law.
For myself, I tend to look at both as being synchronistic. If by adhering to the letter of the law, we do not uphold to the spirit of the law, then the we defy the law.
And vice-versa, If by the spirit of the law, we do not uphold the letter of the law, then we defy the law.
In this respect, the conservative is prone to hypocrasy, for as the pharisee's; they hold that definition and the adherance to ritual, constitute faith, and so justify immoral behavior.
In contrast the progressive tends to justify immoral behavior, by turning the other cheek in the name of tolerance.
This takes me to the two visions of Christ, one as the redeemer, and the other with the sword. One quick to redeem, and accept our failures, and yet also angry at injustice. I see the image of Christ tearing up the temple, a den of thieves, and then a sacrifice for the whole of humanity.
The path to truth is narrow, and niether the simple view of either the progressive, or the conservative can find it. It is only found in a faith, that transcends the id-reactionary of the inner-child. |
| 4/7. There is a 3rd group | | Written by pollchecker | Aug. 09, 07 06:35 | |
| Thank you Linda for attempting to define the differences in this group. I particularly liked the following:
"Conservatives seem to emphasize belief more than action, whereas Progressive/Liberals don't care as much about what someone else believes, as long as they don't try to push their belief systems on others. They care more about the action that results from one's beliefs, since they know belief doesn't always translate into making them more caring, more compassionate, more loving, kinder, with more of the fruits of the Spirit."
But the Bible is clear about this in the book of James, Chapter 2. Starting with verse 14 --
14)What doth it profit , my brethren, though a man sy he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15)If a brother or sister be naked and destitute of daily food, 16)And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; not withstanding ye give them no those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17)Even so faith, if it hath no works, is dead, being alone. 18)Yea, a man may say, Thou hast fiath, and I have works: shew me thy fiath without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
24)Ye see then how that by works a man is justified and not by faith alone.
26) For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
The good news is that there is a 3rd group of believers. I know, I'm one of them. And so are all of my friends. Just call this group "evangelical progressives".
I'd like to close these comments with a valid question. How many people would have believed that Jesus was the messiah if not for his works? |
| 5/7. Lakoff | | Written by trin | Aug. 09, 07 06:36 | |
| | This is the basis of George Lakoff's writtings, such as "Moral Politics," and "Whose Freedom." I would highly recommend both books. It is not only two different world views, but essentially, two different languages. |
| 6/7. Conservatives are more black & white thinkers | | Written by Steve | Aug. 14, 07 11:56 | |
| I have observed religious conservatives are more likely to use their religion in an attempt to gain power, money, or prestige. In politics they use marketing techniques to make voters believe that God is on their side and sometimes it is subtle, but more often blatant. In business, they like to advertise in mega church newspapers or "Christian" phone books to sell their goods and services to each other. If you only do business or commune with other fundamentalist Christians how can you be a light unto the world if you never go into the world?
I have noticed religious conservatives don't think very deeply or logically about problem solving but are more likely to quickly express emotion or simple disgust and move on to the next thought. They believe if everyone had a yard sign repeating the ten commandments, America would be back in God's good grace. The fact that they often bear false witness in political campaigns never enters their mind. The ten commandments are for those other people.
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| 7/7. Salvation | | Written by syzito | Aug. 15, 07 13:03 | |
| | The two groups of Christians can be very different with contradicting theology [one can be true but not both or both can be wrong].It all depends on your means of achieving salvation. |
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